Schilling Criticizes City Councilors on Attacks

writes: Rob Schilling, the sole Republican running for City Council, criticized City councilors yesterday for sending a “confusing signal” to city residents by not going far enough to condemn a series of attacks on local college students as inexcusable violence. This story, and Schilling’s comments on related justice and police matters, are to be found in today’s Daily Progress article by Reed Williams and a WINA news story.

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  • By REED WILLIAMS

    Daily Progress staff writer

    Charlottesville’s city councilors have sent a “confusing signal” to city

    residents by not going far enough to condemn a series of attacks on

    local college students as inexcusable violence, said Rob Schilling, the

    sole Republican running for City Council.

    “I think we need to treat all crimes as hateful, especially when they

    involve violence,” Schilling said Tuesday after a news conference

    announcing his endorsement by the city police officers’ union.

    “A lot of people, they’re wondering why the City Council has not come forward with a strong message against this. I certainly was wondering.”

    Schilling is one of four candidates running in the May 7 election for

    two seats on the all-Democrat council. The three other candidates are

    Mayor Blake Caravati, running for re-election; Democrat Alexandria

    Searls and independent Stratton Salidis.

    No Republican has served on the council in more than a decade.

    Nine black city high school students — an 18-year-old and eight minors —

    have been accused of taking part in the attacks. The adult, who was

    charged with malicious wounding, pleaded guilty last week to a reduced

    charge.

    The attacks drew national attention after police said three of the

    suspects admitted targeting people who looked white. Two of the victims

    were Asian. None of the suspects will face hate-crime charges.

    City officials called a news conference on Feb. 8, after a white-rights

    organization headed by former Klansman David Duke stirred controversy by

    demanding that the teens face hate crimes. In their speeches, Police

    Chief Timothy J. Longo and Caravati expressed concern both for the

    victims and suspects. And both stressed repeatedly that the topic was

    sensitive because it involved race. Longo also said it was too early to

    establish motive.

    Caravati dismissed Schilling’s suggestion that city leaders failed to

    adequately address the beatings as “way off base.

    Schilling is only being divisive and “trying to find a point somewhere,” Caravati said.

    “In every public statement I’ve made, I’ve always stressed that it was a serious crime and people are going to get punished for it,” Caravati

    said. “I think the city will handle this very appropriately and handle this as a city. I think the city needs to come together. These attacks

    are horrible. Everybody realizes that.”

    Schilling also criticized the concept of restorative justice, the idea

    that victims and offenders can meet face-to-face and try to restore

    things to how they were before a crime occurred. Supporters say it

    brings accountability and can help heal victims, assailants and the

    community.

    The case of Gordon Lathan Fields, 18, who was convicted last week of

    assault and battery by mob in one of the attacks on University of

    Virginia students, may be the first ever in which a person is

    recommended to the city’s fledgling restorative justice project.

    Organizers plan to set up the program in the juvenile court by late

    2002. Though Fields is an adult, Charlottesville’s head prosecutor said

    the high school senior probably will be allowed to participate in the

    program instead of performing regular community service. A judge also

    ordered Fields to pay his victim restitution.

    Schilling said he has little faith in restorative justice.

    “I really think that it’s nearly impossible to restore someone

    completely who has experienced a severe beating,” he said. “I don’t

    think there’s such a thing as restoring someone to a pre-beating state.”

    Also at Tuesday’s news conference, Schilling said he is troubled that

    city police must pay $7 a day to park their personal cars in a

    city-owned lot near Garrett Square Apartments.

    Many officers “cannot afford to pay well over a thousand dollars a year to park,” he said.

    Schilling’s comments came after he was endorsed by the 73-member Charlottesville Police Officers’ Association.

  • Jeeze, is there any hope of a City Council Candidates debate? I’d pay admission to attend that one.

  • Why is it that the reporter immediately goes to Caravati to ask for a response to Rob Schilling’s comments?

    And will there be reciprocity?

  • He went to Caravati because he’s the current mayor… it’s just a (good?/bad?) coincidence that he’s also running for reelection. But the main reason is because he’s the mayor and the mayor is the symbolic figurehead for the City Council.

  • Best of luck to Schilling. We need republicans on City Council.

  • . . . it’s just a (good?/bad?) coincidence that he’s also running for reelection.

    BAD coincidence, I would say. I suppose Caravati could have been more discreet, demured at the question . . . but that’s just not him, is it?

    Will there be reciprocity whenever Caravati says something overtly political about opposing viewpoints? Will they contact Schilling or Saladis for their comments? The sooner, the better!

    Please — let’s get direct election of the mayor, and election of the rest of the council by ward or, even (my favored system) by proportional representation.

  • More than luck, Rob Schilling needs votes. Vote for Schilling May 7th.

  • I would agree that Caravati came off as sounding “mean spirited” and even petty, where Schilling sounds like he is taking a “common sense” approach to the whole issue.

  • What is the significance of the Charlottesville Police Officers’ Association’s (unanimous) endorsement of Schilling?

  • Interesting that the Progress chose to focus on the UVa assaults and not that Schilling has been unanimously endorsed by the Police Officer’s Association, a UNION endorsement. No wonder why Democrat Caravati is ticked.

  • More than luck, Rob Schilling needs votes.

    Has he a website (where one might read about him and his views)?

  • It’s a UNION endorsement. Typically unions only endorse Democrat candidates. Also, this was the largest meeting the Police Officer’s Association has had in a very long time, and the endorsement was overwhelming.

    If the Progress had reported the actual story instead of just fishing for controversy, the public would have found out what the POA actually said about Rob Schilling. They said he has “humilty, is willing to listen and seeks information.” Sounds like excellent qualifications for a City Councilor. Certainly these are qualities currently lacking in some other candidates and current Councilors.

  • That’s a huge development. Anytime a union endorses a Republican, it’s a signal there’s substantial unhappiness. This is really big – no wonder the Powers That Be are reacting to Schilling with such vitriol.

  • Go, go, GO Rob Schilling!!!!!

  • Does it signal that the rank-and-file are in conflict with the brass (specifically, Longo)?

  • Wait a minute. Schilling’s troubled that police officers have to pay for parking? What about everybody else that works downtown? What does Rob Schilling propose to do for the rest of us?

    Or is this just election-time posturing because the police have a union that carries some clout and the rest of us aren’t so important?

    The downtown parking problem needs to solved on a comprehensive basis and pitting various groups of downtown workers against each other isn’t a solution.

  • Is the “city-owned lot near Garrett Square Apartments” (as described in the Progress article) used by all City employees? Just some? Must all pay the same rate?

    It seems there must be more to this story than this quick snippet in the Progress shows.

  • GO SCHILLING

    MJ

  • Please, this state is overrun with right-wing Republican politicians, the last thing we need is more of them messing up our budgets, cutting taxes for the rich, killing programs for the poor, coddling up to corporations and polluters, etc. etc. etc. Rob Schilling, and any other Republican in this state, should be ashamed to wear that party’s stripes. If you want an independent voice on City Council, vote Stratton Salidis, don’t elect another right-wing Republican to office please!!!!! We’ve got way too many of them as it is!!!!!

  • Who is this “Salidis”?

  • It makes perfect sense to go immediately to Caravati precisely *because* he’s running for re-election. Make no mistake: Schilling had just criticized Caravati (and others), in what was in large part a political move. Caravati has every right to make an equally political move in return.

    You (cvillenews.com) people really are too much sometimes. If reporters don’t get both sides, they’re unfair. If they make a point of getting both sides, they’re unfair. They aren’t reporting enough about the attacks. They’re focusing too much on the attacks. It’s really tiresome.

    There *was* reciprocity, right there in the story. One political candidate slammed another. The second candidate slammed him back. That sounds like a neat little bundle of reciprocity to me.

  • You (cvillenews.com) people really are too much sometimes. If reporters don’t get both sides, they’re unfair. If they make a point of getting both sides, they’re unfair. They aren’t reporting enough about the attacks. They’re focusing too much on the attacks. It’s really tiresome.

    Might you not be mistaking inconsistency (in the views of the group you name “cvillenews.com people”) for what is really a multitude of different voices?

    You might find it tiresome, but I find it wonderful. And I think it would be nice to have similar vigor and diversity on City Council.

  • There’s more to just about EVERY story than the quick treatment the Progress gives them. This is nothing new.

  • Perhaps someone would like to comment on waht kicked-off this thread: the merit of Schilling’s criticism of City councilors for sending a “confusing signal” to city residents by not going far enough to condemn a series of attacks on local college students as inexcusable violence.

    Is he right? Or did Caravati (in the Progress article) better describe city residents’ perception of council’s message/actions?

  • I don’t even know Rob Schilling, but from what I’ve read and heard I think it’s patently inaccurate and unfair to paint him with such a broad “right wing” brush. As Republicans go, he seems pretty reasonable.

    I’m sure you’d not want anybody referring to the Democratic candidates as Typical Tax And Spend Bleeding Heart Liberals, right?

  • Uh, when you put your life on the line during your job for all city residents, maybe the city will consider paying for your parking too.

  • Guys —

    Get real.

    First, the CPOA is not a union. If it were, it would be outlawed under Virginia law. They have no collective bargaining rights. They cannot represent police officers in negotiations. It is nothing more, and nothing less, than a group of police officers, and they sometimes endorse candidates. At some meetings in the past, the endorsements have been the collective judgment of about 5 police officers.

    Second, the CPOA virtually always endorses Republicans. This is not news.

    Third, the CPOA did not tell any Democrat their time table for making endorsements. They did not interview either Blake Caravati or Alexandria Searls. Neither Blake nor Alexandria was given the opportunity to address them. An endorsement that is the result of informed judgment is one thing; an endorsement that is the result of the preconceived notions of those in the room at the time is much less meaningful.

    Fourth, if you listened to WINA, they reported that the CPOA liked the fact that Schilling wanted to “implement Project Exile” in Charlottesville. What that really means is that the Commonwealth’s Attorney’s office would be given money to hire another attorney to prosecute gun crimes. What Schilling did not say — maybe he didn’t know — is that the Republican General Assembly cut out funding for Project Exile. If elected, he would take office on July 1. Funding for Project Exile would end on June 30. What’s he going to implement it with? What will he cut so that he can fund locally a program that has been funded by the state everywhere else? Did the police officers realize that the centerpiece of his plan — Project Exile — had been cut by his own party in Richmond?

    And yes, I am biased, being the Co-Chair of the Democratic Party. But check out the facts.

    Lloyd Snook

  • You’re probably right about the different voices.

    And I guess my feeling is, if the tone of all these voices is “wonderful,” then that’s great. What I’m complaining about is when people constantly find fault with local media coverage for a host of seemingly inconsistent reasons. It seems like, amidst all this diversity of opinion, the ony thing everyone agrees on is that the media is all wrong.

    All I’m saying is that if I was in the media, I’d be a little sick of what can come across as half-baked criticism.

  • Schilling was responding to some concerns the police officers’ union mentioned to him. Far from ‘political posturing” it shows someone who is interested in hearing what various groups have to say.

    I would suggest that if you have something that is bothering you, that you contact Schilling to talk about it. Go to his web site or call him, he’s in the book. Sheesh!

  • Schilling was misquoted (no surprise.) The lot he was talking about is adjacent to the police department and charges seven dollars a day.

  • Read the article again.Schilling did not use the type of petty language Caravati did. Schilling was merely mentioning what he has heard from people he has talked to. Make no mistake, Carvati DID mean to slam Schilling, though. Wonder what Caravati’s so sensitive about, hmmm?

  • Let’s face it. Unfortunately the media is not interested in telling you what has happened (is happening); the media is interested in stirring up “dirt.”

    My guess is Caravati and “his” people are not too happy about the quote because it makes him sound like a political hack who is not concerned with people’s concerns (about the assualts). Rather, it sounds like Caravati is more concerned with trying to score a point against Schilling. (Which backfired miserably.)

  • Let’s face it. Unfortunately the media is not interested in telling you what has happened (is happening); the media is interested in stirring up “dirt.”

    My guess is Caravati and “his” people are not too happy about the quote because it makes him sound like a political hack who is not concerned with people’s concerns (about the assualts). Rather, it sounds like Caravati is more concerned with trying to score a point against Schilling. (Which backfired miserably.)

  • Right On!!!!

    Schilling is reasonable, intelligent and would make a GREAT addition to the City Council.

  • UNBELIEVABLE. And all black people are……?

    Your prejudice and stereotyping are offensive. If you don’t like a person on his or her merits, fine, but the knee-jerk reaction says more about you than about the other person (or group. )

    Rob Schilling HAS NEVER advocated what you suggest. Instead of spouting rhetoric, maybe you should find out what he actually stands for/believes?

  • If Rob Schilling would come out and publicly distance himself from the state GOPers (like Jim Gilmore) who have made such a mess of our state finances and if Rob Schilling would come out and publicly distance himself from the Christian Coalition/Enron/Big Business GOPers who have made such a mess of everything else, then he might get some votes in this town. Otherwise, his party affiliation alone is going to sink his candidacy. The Republican Party has nothing to offer Charlottesville, which is why there were only, what, 15 people at their nominating convention (vs. 450 for the Dems)? Rob Schilling should withdraw now and endorse Stratton Salidis for office.

    On another note, I find it fascinating that Rob Schilling’s campaign is being run by a bunch of Young Republicans from Western Albemarle High School. Note to Rob: Western Albemarle is in Albemarle County.

    p.s. I love the fact that Rob has asked all of his supporters to post positive comments about him on this site. It’s pretty transparent, fellas.

  • Caravati and Council have gone out of their way to “double-talk” the assaults, probably for politically expedient reasons. Read the Richmond Times Dispatch editorial from today (elsewhere on this site ) to see some other things Caravati has said about this issue.

    To a person, everyone I have ever spoken with about this issue (and this has been many, many people) have said basically what Schilling said at the press conference (which wasn’t all quoted in the paper.)

    Schilling has taken a “common sense” approach to looking at the assualts as the crimes they are. His message in a nutshell is: Any and all crimes such as assualts/beatings are hateful; Perpetrators should be brought to justice through the execution of due process, and take responsibility for their actions; While apologies are fine, they don’t entirely make up for the crime, so more than “restorative justice” is in order; Victims of assualts are often traumatized for years after the initial attack and don’t need to to be further traumatized by what appears to be oversympathy for the alleged perpetrators (especially oversympathy comming from government officials like the City Councilors and the Mayor.)

    If you want to know more, ask Schilling directly. He’s very open and actually wants to listen to the people’s concerns. Imagine that!

  • Oh come on, get a grip – I can only speak for myself, but nobody has asked me to post ANY comments about ANYBODY. If no Republican has a prayer of winning an election in Charlottesville, then why is everybody so worked up about his candidacy?

    When it comes to the politics of personal destruction, it’s clear at least from the postings here where it’s coming from in this particular election.

  • The gentleman who co-chairs the party that got the current mayor and Commonwealth’s Attorney elected, and who represented one of the thugs who recently got his wrist delicately slapped at the recommendation of same Commonwealth’s Attorney has spoken. I guess that ends this discussion.

  • What’s transparent is your obvious lack of knowledge about Rob Schilling and his campaign positions and operations!

    Hmmmm, last time I checked, Jim Gilmore was no longer Governor of Virginia.

    What in the world do you have against young people from Western helping Rob a few days a month???? If you think that this is the extent of Rob’s support or campaign operations, well,…….No, you just GO ON thinking that, okay?

    It’s obvious that you support Salidis and it is obvious that YOU are trying to fill this page with supportive comments about HIM. It is equally obvious that some of Salidis’s supporters do not know Schilling at all and are just trying to throw anything and everything in hopes it will stick, but it won’t.

    You may not like this, but Rob Schilling is receiving substantial support from Democrats, Independents AND Republicans beacuse he is intelligent, honest, fair-minded, and has practical vision. He is a unique person and candidate, as anybody who bothers to speak with him finds out very quickly. It is not too far off to say that he is possibly the most “different” person to run for City Council in many, many years.

  • While you’re here, and since you might be able to make this happen, how about a candidate’s debate? Any prayer of that happening? I would think the Democratic candidates would welcome the chance to set the record straight.

    Well?

  • First, the CPOA is not a union […] It is nothing more, and nothing less, than a group of police officers, and they sometimes endorse candidates

    But if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck . . . then it must be a . . .

    From the CPOA website:

    In 1990, a group of Charlottesville police officers and detectives began discussing ways they could better promote their interests and concerns.  They decided to create a new organization that would present a unified voice of street-level police officers.  They were hopeful that this association would finally provide the city government and the community with issues and initiatives from the working police officers’ perspective.

    That same year, the CPOA was created and chartered as a non-profit association with the State of Virginia.  Officers began meeting regularly, electing leadership, and collecting dues.  The association became affiliated with the International Union of Police Associations(IUPA), a member organization of the AFL-CIO and greatly expanded its resources and benefits to  members.

  • It is equally obvious that some of Salidis’s supporters do not know Schilling at all and are just trying to throw anything and everything in hopes it will stick, but it won’t.

    Don’t confuse the supporters of candidates with the candidates themselves. I have a hard time imagining that Stratton would ever engage in or support negative campaigning.

    It is not too far off to say that he is possibly the most “different” person to run for City Council in many, many years.

    Hey now, I take that personally.

    ;)

  • Of course Schilling, like virtually everybody else in Virginia knows that the funding has been cut on Project Exile. You need to look at what was actually said before you make comments or maybe people will think you don’t know what you are talking about. Rob Schilling said we need to EXPLORE implementation of Project Exile; there are things that still can be done here in C-ville, now or in the future. Interesting to note your lack of vision.

    Maybe the Democrats didn’t receive any endorsements because they always wait for people, especially people in law enforcement, to come to them.

    You are also WRONG about the way Schilling’s endorsement happened. It was debated and spoken of at the largest meeting the Police Officers Association has had in many years. You may wish it was only five officers, but you would be wrong.

    Rob Schilling is receiving across the board support, from Democrats, Independents, as well as Republicans because he, to quote the Police Officer’s spokesperson, “has “humilty”, is intelligent and wants to know what concerns the citizens of Charlottesville.

    From your lofty perch, you may think that everything has been just fine with the city, but I can assure you there is a HUGE groundswell of discontent and disgust with the almost twenty years of absolute lock-step governance by the City Council. We don’t live in a one=party country or state or city—it’s time to end one party rule in Charlottesville.

  • Caravati and Council have gone out of their way to “double-talk” the assaults, probably for politically expedient reasons. Read the Richmond Times Dispatch editorial from today (elsewhere on this site ) to see some other things Caravati has said about this issue.



    The editorial you mention is here.

  • Oh YES!!

    I think if you asked any member of the group, they would say it was a union.

    The endorsement is SOOO BIGGG, Lloyd doesn’t know what to do except try to cast stones. And, oh yeah, he doesn;t have any vested interest being part of the UVa assault debacle himself either.

  • “when you put your life on the line during your job for all city residents, maybe the city will consider paying for your parking too”

    That’s not a fair response. Frankly, I wouldn’t put my life on the line for a salary of $1,000,000 a year, but I don’t think Rob Schilling would advocate pay of $1,000,000 a year for police officers, would he?

    By your logic, what shouldn’t the city pay for, when it comes for police officers? Day care for their children? Haircuts? Lunch? After all, when they put their life on the line, is it too much to ask that the city buy them lunch?

    Maybe free parking ought to be available for city police officers. Maybe it ought to be available for all city employees. But, the fact is, that’s a job perk, that ought to be discussed in the context of overall pay and benefits. And, a proper consideration of downtown parking needs to be considered in a broader context.

  • Hence the words Salidis’s “supporters.” Stratton himself wouldn’t be so nasty certainly.

    And in regard to being “different”; Now Waldo, had you made it, I would have DEFINITELY said the same thing about you.

    Cheers!

  • you write: “Rob Schilling is receiving substantial support from Democrats, Independents AND Republicans…”

    is this some kind of a joke????????????

    (1) no one outside of a very small universe of people knows who rob schilling even is. if you think rob schilling is getting “substantial support” from ANYONE then you, my friend, are in la-la land.

    (2) i am willing to donate $100 to the charity of your choice if rob schilling gets more than 20% of the vote on may 7. his candidacy is a joke, the man has NO CHANCE. charlottesville does not take kindly to right-wing Republicans. end of story.

  • Wow, Waldo. Did you intend to mod this foaming-at-the-mouth, stereotyping, vitriolic post as “Insightful”?

    I mean, I can see “Interesting”, in a morbid fascination kind of way… but “Insightful”?

  • CPC, which runs the Market St. garage that he was talking about, offers parking to police officers for $1/day. They don’t do this for other city employees who pay the same as every once who works downtown does.

  • charlottesville does not take kindly to right-wing Republicans.

    I — a Democrat — haven’t seen anything yet of Schilling that leads me to believe he is the cartoonish right-winger you describe. So, I’m not putting my fingers in my ears yet. Perhaps he, like Darden Towe, can make an honorable contribution to the City.

  • So Rob Schilling is fast and loose (and, not to mention, inaccurate) with his facts. Not suprising, given his party affiliation.

  • Didn’t Towe beat a Snook in an city election, once upon a time?

  • “i am willing to donate $100 to the charity of your choice if rob schilling gets more than 20% of the vote on may 7.”

    This wager would probably have more meaning if you hadn’t posted your comment as Anonymous. ;)

  • oh please, let’s not dishonor darden towe by mentioning rob schilling’s name anywhere near the same breath.

    i think that the republicans could have nominated barney fife and he would be getting the same blind support that rob schilling is getting from a very small cadre of frustrated cvillians.

    my original point still stands. if you want an independent voice on council, one not bound by party affiliation or tainted by association with some of the worst public miscreants this nation has ever produced (i.e. many of our current and recent GOP office-holders), put your support behind a real independent, stratton salidis.

    p.s. in case you’re wondering, i don’t even know stratton salidis, nor does he have anything to do with my posts. i just know a good and honest independent thinker when i see one.

  • I knew Darden fairly well, and I think it’s safe to say that were we still fortunate enough to have him around he’d most definitely be the loudest and proudest Rob Schilling supporter in town. He’d be walking around the mall wearing Rob Schilling buttons and handing out Rob Schilling bumber stickers and “Smile” cards to everybody he ran into, all day long. There would be a Rob Schilling poster in his office window, and volunteers would be using the spare floor below his insurance company as a phone bank. Of this, I have absolutely no doubt. Of this, anybody who knew him at all would have absolutely no doubt. The man just never met an election he couldn’t have a tremendous amount of fun with.

    Even though he found himself on the short end of an awful lot of 4-1 votes when he was on City Council, he understood the value of making sure that lone vote was counted.

  • oh my god, you’re joking–you haven’t even done basic research to find out who all the candidates are?

  • Whew – thanks for clearing that up. I was afraid it was only the local Democratic Party who was fast and loose.

  • Well, it doesn’t end the discussion if you can refute any of his facts.

    If one can’t refute his facts, I guess one does what you just did–imply that Snook is biased and untrustworthy based on his affiliations.

    The term for this logical fallacy is “ad hominen,” which means going after the man rather than the argument itself. It’s pretty weak.

  • You can end it if you have the numbers on election day. If you don’t, you need to shut up about one-party rule. It’s not being imposed upon you from Above. You sound like you think you live in Stalin’s USSR. Which may give you an inspiring sense of persecution, but which is pretty laughable if you know anything about actual one-party rule–the kind where there only party is legally permitted, not the kind where you’re simply in the political minority.

    You live in a strongly left/liberal town (an enclave within a strongly right-leaning state). Most people who turn out for local elections vote for Democratic candidates.

    I don’t see the “HUGE groundswell of discontent and disgust” that you claim exists, but perhaps it is there. We won’t know until the election. What will you say if Schilling doesn’t win? Or is that impossible?

  • “You (cvillenews.com) people really are too much sometimes. If reporters don’t get both sides, they’re unfair. If they make a point of getting both sides, they’re unfair. They aren’t reporting enough about the attacks. They’re focusing too much on the attacks. It’s really tiresome.”

    THANK YOU. I thought for a while that this site was attracting a relatively elevated level of discourse, but more and more lately it’s sounding like your average Yahoo message board–conspiracy theories abound. “Why did the DP do _that_, hmm?” “Who might have been behind _this_, hmm?” A lot of insinuation and suspicion, very little logic, consistency, or evidence.

  • All I’m saying is that if I was in the media, I’d be a little sick of what can come across as half-baked criticism.

    There does seem to be a gaggle of media-types trolling through this site. What surprises me is their thin skin. This isn’t a characteristic of just local media (think of how vain and fragile the national reporters can be).

    I’ll also point out that the local media has been critical of itself recently (e.g., the Progress editorial on sensationalism, and The Hook article on the same), so it isn’t just readers who are casting a critical eye.

  • The gentleman who co-chairs the party that got the current mayor and Commonwealth’s Attorney elected, and who represented one of the thugs who recently got his wrist delicately slapped at the recommendation of same Commonwealth’s Attorney has spoken. I guess that ends this discussion.

    That’s hardly fair. I don’t care if you’ve somehow convinced yourself that Lloyd Snook is Satan himself — the fact is that he’s presented some useful and interesting facts effectively refuting a good chunk of Schilling’s plans as regards the police force.

    Ad hominen indeed.

  • The endorsement is SOOO BIGGG

    Maybe not. Don’t most of the city cops live in the county (or counties)?

    But I suppose it does have some poltical weight, beyond members’ votes.

  • Wow, Waldo. Did you intend to mod this foaming-at-the-mouth, stereotyping, vitriolic post as “Insightful”?

    I mean, I can see “Interesting”, in a morbid fascination kind of way… but “Insightful”?

    I damn near moderated it as “Funny,” but I thought somebody might take offense, so I grabbed the nearest one. :)

    I really want to add some new rating categories. “+1 Clever,” “-1 Stupid,” “+1 Amusing,” “+1 Paranoid-Delusional,” that sort of a thing. I’ll make that a part of the Impending Overhaul(tm).

  • Another somone here… I’m also curious…

    And before you start your moral preaching again, remember that there were like 200 folks running for president, but I didn’t research them all either. Fact is, some folks are usually more well known politically or have a chance at winning while others are just kook jobs without a clue… Don’t know who this Salidas is so he may be very cool, but cut folks some slack. Too many times we find out these folks we are supposed to be raving about have zero experience or are fringe players. In a winner take all system a vote on a canidate like that can be simply throwing it away.

  • WOW…

    You don’t often to get to see this kind of wildly prejudiced, ignorant, backwards attitude. I voted for Nader, and I can tell you the last person I will vote for will be this Salidis fellow.

    Folks actually making decisions are probably going to be more interested in the human beings running rather than your rediculous and ignorant stereotypes…

    Peace

  • I think “Funny” would’ve been pretty appropriate. Though “+1 Typical Tax And Spend Bleeding Heart Liberal” would’ve been hysterical (Thanks Big_Al).

    The Impending Overhaul(tm) sounds like fun. I’ll look forward to it!

  • no, the police don’t get parking for $1 a day. If the officer works the evening shift, they pay $1.00 for the remainder of the day. Midnight shift officers park free, just like everyone else. Dayshift officers, 8-4, pay the daily rate as normal

  • I agree, the political arena is not the place to discuss job perks.

  • he’s the only council candidate with a criminal conviction!

  • Not to spread unfounded rumors, but during the Democratic primary, there were all kinds of stories going around about Blake Caravati being busted in a prostitution sting, then using his position on Council to cover it up. If this is true (and I wish someone would substantiate it one way or the other, so the rumor mill can move on to other juicy topics), then Stratton’s not the only one with skeletons in his closet. At least Stratton’s admitted to his skeleton.

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