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	<title>Comments on: Guy Walks into Kroger with an AR-15</title>
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		<title>By: Sean McCord</title>
		<link>http://cvillenews.com/2013/01/27/kroger-ar-15/#comment-51536</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean McCord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 14:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, that guy with the sign was exercising his 1st amendment rights.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that guy with the sign was exercising his 1st amendment rights.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://cvillenews.com/2013/01/27/kroger-ar-15/#comment-51529</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 03:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw a clean-cut young white man with a poorly-lettered cardboard sign bearing the 2nd amendment standing in front of the police station as I drove past the other day; wondered if it was the same fellow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a clean-cut young white man with a poorly-lettered cardboard sign bearing the 2nd amendment standing in front of the police station as I drove past the other day; wondered if it was the same fellow.</p>
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		<title>By: Waldo Jaquith</title>
		<link>http://cvillenews.com/2013/01/27/kroger-ar-15/#comment-51471</link>
		<dc:creator>Waldo Jaquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 01:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I heard Sandy Hausman&#039;s report, and I briefly puzzled over her mention of his name, saying that he gave his name on air. I completely missed that he&#039;d read his name while reading the note. FWIW, I don&#039;t have anything against the guy wanting to be anonymous, since of course he didn&#039;t break any laws, but the fact that he read his name on-air means that the cat is out of the bag.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Sandy Hausman&#8217;s report, and I briefly puzzled over her mention of his name, saying that he gave his name on air. I completely missed that he&#8217;d read his name while reading the note. FWIW, I don&#8217;t have anything against the guy wanting to be anonymous, since of course he didn&#8217;t break any laws, but the fact that he read his name on-air means that the cat is out of the bag.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth 2 Power</title>
		<link>http://cvillenews.com/2013/01/27/kroger-ar-15/#comment-51459</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth 2 Power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 15:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And now we apparently know the perpetrators name. Despite host Rick Moore referring to his guest pseudonymously, &quot;Lawrence&quot; himself gave his name as Karl Bitzer when he read his note on the air. WVTF is also reporting that is what he called himself: http://tinyurl.com/auve9fu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now we apparently know the perpetrators name. Despite host Rick Moore referring to his guest pseudonymously, &#8220;Lawrence&#8221; himself gave his name as Karl Bitzer when he read his note on the air. WVTF is also reporting that is what he called himself: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/auve9fu" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/auve9fu</a></p>
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		<title>By: Victoria Dunham</title>
		<link>http://cvillenews.com/2013/01/27/kroger-ar-15/#comment-51436</link>
		<dc:creator>Victoria Dunham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it problematic that a certain percentage of the gun collectors I know are so reactionary (i,e, poor impulse control), angry, and paranoid.  Combined with their spectacularly bad judgement, concealed carry permits, and lust for armor-piercing bullets and mega-sized magazines, this is not a good thing.

As someone who was raised with guns, and is very proficient with them, I&#039;m well aware of the damage that can be caused if they are in the wrong hands.  My personal belief is that gun owners should treat it as a privilege, not a right.  The more flag-waving and militia talk I see surrounding this issue, the more wary of gun owners I become.  Some militia...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it problematic that a certain percentage of the gun collectors I know are so reactionary (i,e, poor impulse control), angry, and paranoid.  Combined with their spectacularly bad judgement, concealed carry permits, and lust for armor-piercing bullets and mega-sized magazines, this is not a good thing.</p>
<p>As someone who was raised with guns, and is very proficient with them, I&#8217;m well aware of the damage that can be caused if they are in the wrong hands.  My personal belief is that gun owners should treat it as a privilege, not a right.  The more flag-waving and militia talk I see surrounding this issue, the more wary of gun owners I become.  Some militia&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Patience</title>
		<link>http://cvillenews.com/2013/01/27/kroger-ar-15/#comment-51434</link>
		<dc:creator>Patience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I listened to the interview while driving home yesterday.  He had a pleasant manner, but seemed utterly unable to comprehend the ways that others might perceive him--I guess the fact that he was smiling at people in the store was supposed to indicate that he was harmless.  

Rick Moore&#039;s final question was to ask him to consider if he had actually damaged his own cause--because now Kroger has a &quot;no firearms&quot; policy, so people legally carrying concealed weapons will not be able to carry their weapons into Kroger--and he had no answer to the question, other than he hadn&#039;t really thought about it, and that he still thinks his stunt was a success.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to the interview while driving home yesterday.  He had a pleasant manner, but seemed utterly unable to comprehend the ways that others might perceive him&#8211;I guess the fact that he was smiling at people in the store was supposed to indicate that he was harmless.  </p>
<p>Rick Moore&#8217;s final question was to ask him to consider if he had actually damaged his own cause&#8211;because now Kroger has a &#8220;no firearms&#8221; policy, so people legally carrying concealed weapons will not be able to carry their weapons into Kroger&#8211;and he had no answer to the question, other than he hadn&#8217;t really thought about it, and that he still thinks his stunt was a success.</p>
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		<title>By: Waldo Jaquith</title>
		<link>http://cvillenews.com/2013/01/27/kroger-ar-15/#comment-51426</link>
		<dc:creator>Waldo Jaquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 04:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just came here to post the link—thanks for that.

I listened to the interview in its entirety over the course of the day, and I&#039;ve reevaluated the guy. I don&#039;t think he&#039;s a jackass—I think he&#039;s a sociopath. Over an hour-long interview, he showed absolutely no ability to understand how normal human beings think and behave. The guy isn&#039;t dumb. He&#039;s just utterly unable to comprehend societal norms, and shows absolutely no curiosity about it. The effect is even &lt;em&gt;worse&lt;/em&gt; than the Westboro Baptist Church. They show up at public events, say horrible, horrible things to and about people, and in doing so they acknowledge that it&#039;s to get a rise out of people. This guy shows up in a public space wielding a very threatening-looking weapon specifically to get a reaction from people, and says that he has no idea of why people react at all. He says he has no regrets, and considers the stunt a success. As one caller put it, having the right to do something and doing the right thing are often two different things.

There was one important point on which he was either being dishonest or simply not thinking clearly. A point that he and a couple of (presumed) confederates on the phone made was that there was nothing at all threatening about what he was doing—that any fool would know that the gun wasn&#039;t being held by the grip, therefore he couldn&#039;t hurt a fly. That&#039;s pure foolishness. If we take his statement at face value, then carrying that rifle was useless, because he couldn&#039;t have defended himself with it. Of course that&#039;s not true. I confess I have not timed myself with either of my own rifles, but I&#039;m pretty sure that I could get it from a slung position into a firing position in a couple of seconds or so. It is likewise obvious to any observer that a rifle can be moved into firing position much more quickly than bystanders are liable to be able to react.

Anyhow, sociopath. With guns. Good times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came here to post the link—thanks for that.</p>
<p>I listened to the interview in its entirety over the course of the day, and I&#8217;ve reevaluated the guy. I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s a jackass—I think he&#8217;s a sociopath. Over an hour-long interview, he showed absolutely no ability to understand how normal human beings think and behave. The guy isn&#8217;t dumb. He&#8217;s just utterly unable to comprehend societal norms, and shows absolutely no curiosity about it. The effect is even <em>worse</em> than the Westboro Baptist Church. They show up at public events, say horrible, horrible things to and about people, and in doing so they acknowledge that it&#8217;s to get a rise out of people. This guy shows up in a public space wielding a very threatening-looking weapon specifically to get a reaction from people, and says that he has no idea of why people react at all. He says he has no regrets, and considers the stunt a success. As one caller put it, having the right to do something and doing the right thing are often two different things.</p>
<p>There was one important point on which he was either being dishonest or simply not thinking clearly. A point that he and a couple of (presumed) confederates on the phone made was that there was nothing at all threatening about what he was doing—that any fool would know that the gun wasn&#8217;t being held by the grip, therefore he couldn&#8217;t hurt a fly. That&#8217;s pure foolishness. If we take his statement at face value, then carrying that rifle was useless, because he couldn&#8217;t have defended himself with it. Of course that&#8217;s not true. I confess I have not timed myself with either of my own rifles, but I&#8217;m pretty sure that I could get it from a slung position into a firing position in a couple of seconds or so. It is likewise obvious to any observer that a rifle can be moved into firing position much more quickly than bystanders are liable to be able to react.</p>
<p>Anyhow, sociopath. With guns. Good times.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Soroka</title>
		<link>http://cvillenews.com/2013/01/27/kroger-ar-15/#comment-51409</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Soroka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 17:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is an interview with the person in question: 

http://www.cvillepodcast.com/2013/02/03/wake-up-call-guns-at-kroger/

I haven&#039;t listened to it. I&#039;m just passing the link along as of interest in this thread.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an interview with the person in question: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cvillepodcast.com/2013/02/03/wake-up-call-guns-at-kroger/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cvillepodcast.com/2013/02/03/wake-up-call-guns-at-kroger/</a></p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t listened to it. I&#8217;m just passing the link along as of interest in this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: colfer</title>
		<link>http://cvillenews.com/2013/01/27/kroger-ar-15/#comment-51398</link>
		<dc:creator>colfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 13:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wouldn&#039;t be surprised if he or his backers picked Charlottesville as a liberal jurisdiction. Remember about ten years ago when the state arrested bootleggers right at the same stretch of 29N, just inside city limits? The moonshiners were on their way from the Bedford County area to Baltimore or thereabouts. So why did they pull them over in the one liberal / not moonshiney jurisdiction along the way?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if he or his backers picked Charlottesville as a liberal jurisdiction. Remember about ten years ago when the state arrested bootleggers right at the same stretch of 29N, just inside city limits? The moonshiners were on their way from the Bedford County area to Baltimore or thereabouts. So why did they pull them over in the one liberal / not moonshiney jurisdiction along the way?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://cvillenews.com/2013/01/27/kroger-ar-15/#comment-51336</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the words of one observer:

&quot;Would it have been OK to have carried the gun into a store where the Governor or Attorney General were shopping?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the words of one observer:</p>
<p>&#8220;Would it have been OK to have carried the gun into a store where the Governor or Attorney General were shopping?&#8221;</p>
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